Dana Watts - Tying the Knot without Tying up Resources

[00:00:00] Adam: Hello. Welcome to another episode of Green Champions.

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[00:00:42] Adam: Today Dominique and I are joined by Dana Watts. Last time we gotta hear from Dana on her experience growing up, how she got into sustainability and a little bit about how she discovered this element that was missing in the wedding planning world around taking care of things, especially the perishables after events.

[00:00:59] Dominique: And today we're gonna dive into Dana's sustainability success, and we're really gonna talk about how and why she's making impact with Thyme & Details, which is a sustainability focused event planning company, and what it really looks like to incorporate sustainability as a client of hers. So Adam and I are gonna be tapping into our 'getting married' mindsets. Strap in, strap in, Adam, to really unpack the potential for impact here. So Dana, welcome back.

[00:01:28] Dana: Thank you. 

[00:01:29] Dominique: Thank you for being here. I am a very big fan of you and I'm just so excited to talk about all the things that I know you navigate all the time when it comes to weddings. 

[00:01:38] Dominique: So first thing, paint the picture for us. What do you do that's good for the planet? So when you think about you being a sustainability focused event planning service and incorporating this whimsical eco-conscious mindset, you like to phrase it that way. How do you do that? What does that mean?

[00:01:54] Dana: I would say I try to eliminate waste. So there's a lot of different ways to do that. Connect people with like-minded other professionals that focus on sustainability or maybe they do something special that others don't do. I like to donate trees. I know that's a pretty like simple one and maybe cliche, but you can't not donate trees when you're in the environmental space. I feel like that's just so natural. 

[00:02:17] Dana: And I try to just work with vendors like on the business side. So there's the client side where I'm helping them make these choices, but also running a business that's more sustainable in every step of the way as a business owner trying to make more sustainable choices. Even if that's, you know, again, back to the cliches like sourcing paper that's been recycled or more responsibly harvested, driving an EV and sourcing energy from renewable energy sources, like just elements like that, I would say.

[00:02:47] Adam: How does that look like for a wedding couple that is coming to you to plan their wedding? 

[00:02:51] Dana: Usually, they don't know what that means typically, and they try to incorporate sustainability into their life. As their planner, I'm trying to incorporate sustainability into the planning process. So planners are usually trying to find the best vendors and options for their clients, but they're trying to help them find a design that's most aligned with them and showcasing them as a couple and helping with those visual elements, but also helping with the budgetary side of things and finding vendors that are aligned with their budget and just make sense for them.

[00:03:19] Dana: So, those two things are very important and definitely what I do. But there's also an element, another lens that I'm bringing to the process, which is like a sustainability lens. So when you're picking a florist, for example, helping them find someone who is decorating without floral, the use of floral foam or sourcing their flowers locally to avoid the packaging and shipping process with, you know, other flowers, suppliers. That's just one of like an example, if you will, where throughout the process, I'm providing them options of a budget conscious option, something that's in line with their vision. Maybe it's not as budget friendly, but if this is what you were looking for, here's that option. And then maybe they want something that's just a more sustainable option. And it could be both of those things. It could be very aligned with their vision. It could be more budget conscious, but it just depends on the situation. But taking that lens throughout the process, I guess.

[00:04:13] Adam: Are there certain things that you find couples need to be educated on when they come in? Like misconceptions that they have?

[00:04:19] Dana: Definitely with, when it comes to cost, people think sustainability and they think, "Oh, that's gonna cost more money," and that's not necessarily the case. At the end of the day, ideally sustainability is a cost saver. So it depends on what it is and what infrastructure's in place. But ideally, sustainability is not more expensive. So taking that lens does not mean they're gonna end up spending more. I think that's the biggest misconception, is the cost.

[00:04:44] Adam: How can sustainability be a lower cost?

[00:04:47] Dana: There are many ways but at the end of the day, you're trying to find something that makes the most sense. So there's making the most sense from a like logistical standpoint. And maybe that's cutting something, not doing everything that other people do just for the sake of tradition and being like everybody else, but making decisions that make sense for you. 

[00:05:08] Dana: So maybe that's making cuts. And it doesn't have to cost more money when you're donating your flowers. It doesn't have to cost money to donate your food or just make choices like renting different materials instead of buying them and then letting them sit in your garage or just throwing them out after 10 years. Of course there are certain things that do cost more, but it depends on the choices you make. And there are so many choices to make along the way. People who planned a wedding will understand that there's so many choices and a certain point it's like, "You just pick, I don't care." 

[00:05:40] Adam: So kind of sharing that, one, doing nothing doesn't cost you anything. So if there's stuff that you can cut out that makes your process more sustainable, that's gonna lower your costs, not necessarily raise them.

[00:05:53] Dana: Nothing's perfect. So you obviously, there are certain things that cost more, I can't say it's all free. It's not all necessarily going to save your pocketbook, but for the most part, the things at least that I'm recommending are going to be a cost saver.

[00:06:06] Dominique: And I imagine it depends on your location, your venue type, the elements that you're trying to incorporate. 

[00:06:13] Dominique: Are there common easy wins across a lot of the couples you've worked with when it comes to a sustainability feature of a wedding?

[00:06:21] Dana: Yeah, and maybe it's because I focus on this too, but waste management, honestly. And so that can mean What are you buying versus what are you borrowing?" Or maybe there's resale markets and things like that. " What are you buying? What are you borrowing? What's getting thrown out at the end of the day?" Like thinking about the whole life cycle helps.

[00:06:40] Dominique: What are some common borrowed things?

[00:06:43] Dana: Commonly borrowed things would be like typically tableware or arches or like tableware in the sense of china, plates, glassware, tablecloth. I mean it depends on the style of

[00:06:55] Dominique: Like table settings as well.

[00:06:56] Dana: Yeah. Table setting, like the centerpieces ,flatware, people can rent those. And that's where maybe that does get really expensive because if you're renting a certain kind of, you know, flatware piece. So maybe it's a fork. You need maybe two forks, a knife and a spoon, and then each of those things cost money. But if you pick a caterer that that's included in their package, great. Then you're not buying that. 

[00:07:17] Dana: If you are having to supply your own linens and your venues' not providing that, trying to source from a rental provider instead of buying something that's disposable. Most people aren't buying disposable, at least, you know, for my clients, they're typically not, because when you hire a wedding planner that typically just isn't something you're making a sacrifice on. But there are people out there that aren't hiring a wedding planner, and for those people, try to rent. There are places out there that rentals are not that expensive, but don't buy your linens because especially if they're a certain color, you're not gonna use them again. And it's well worth having someone else press them, clean them. At the end of the day you don't wanna tumble like 30 linens. 

[00:07:56] Adam: One thing that you mentioned earlier, which I thought was worth highlighting was it sounds like you go and build relationships with people who are more sustainable. So there's a lot of research that you do on your own in building those partnerships. Is there something specific that you do to like find those people? 

[00:08:13] Dana: Networking, networking, networking. I am not a huge fan of social media, but I have met so many cool people on Instagram by just showing, educating them on what I'm trying to do or what I'm doing with my clients. And then that sparks a conversation of, "Oh hey, we're doing that too," or "We're trying to do that. How did you implement that?" And just starting conversations and not coming from a place of telling people how to do things, but just showing up and showing people like there's a lot of opportunity to do cool things and why not do that? Or why not think about this a different way? 

[00:08:46] Adam: Yeah, so you do cool things like Stem for Seniors, like can you explain like what that partnership looks like?

[00:08:51] Dana: I noticed that there was a lot of opportunity to donate flowers or do something else with them besides throwing them in the garbage. 

[00:08:57] Dominique: Is that where they typically go?

[00:08:59] Dana: Yeah. Why would we throw flowers in the garbage? Like, I feel like everyone can be on the same page with we don't want that, for a million different reasons, but it's just so interesting 'cause like they're literally used for like a few hours. And they're thousands of dollars. 

[00:09:13] Dominique: And they're at their best.

[00:09:15] Dana: Oh yeah. 

[00:09:16] Dominique: Okay, so what do you do with them?

[00:09:17] Dana: Okay, so, I've been in the industry for a while, but I launched Thyme & Details on my own in 2020. And right around the same time there was this family, Todd and his wife, they started Stems for Seniors around the same time I did, and we connected somehow, I'm pretty sure, through Instagram. And I was looking for this, like I was looking for a place that could do something with flowers at the end of the wedding day. they will come to an event at the end of the night, they'll bring their tubs, even if it's midnight or whatever in some random place, and they'll collect whatever is left on the table that we designate. 

[00:09:51] Dana: So if people wanna take flowers, that's totally fine. Like if you donate does not mean your mom can't take a flower arrangement home, or you know your aunts can't take some home with them. These are your flowers. And so by all means, you have total right to take them and do with them what you wish. But at the end of the day, no one's gonna carry 10 arrangements out with them. They're gonna take one or two for each hand, and the rest are gonna stay on the table. 

[00:10:15] Dana: So Stems for Seniors will come pull the flowers out of the any rented vases. If there's like an insert that goes into a vase and the florist doesn't need that insert back, they can just take the whole piece with them and they'll take it to their home, which they have this big garage and they have a whole slew of volunteers now who, 

[00:10:32] Dana: pull those arrangements apart, package them into smaller arrangements and take them to seniors. It started off with Meals on Wheels because the co-founder Todd of Stems for Seniors, he worked with LifeCare Alliance and was like, "We have got to get these seniors flowers" because he loves flowers, but he's like, "These people, if they need a meal, they don't get many visitors, like flowers would totally make their day."

[00:10:56] Dana: So he started that and then every person on his route would get a vase flowers with their meal. And it's grown substantially so now they have so many weddings that they are doing the Meals on Wheels piece, but they're also donating to like Kobacker House with hospice care and other senior facilities. 

[00:11:13] Adam: Well, and such a nice way to take, you know, here's a beautiful event. Take something that might just land in the landfill and repurpose it to bring light into somebody's day, like that means so much. 

[00:11:24] Dominique: Are most couples on board with donations like that with flowers?

[00:11:28] Dana: I'd say, all of them. Maybe like one per year is like, "No, we'd rather just save them all" and so we'll pack 'em in the car and what happens to those afterwards? We don't know. Maybe they go home and maybe they get distributed and that's great. I hope they don't end up dying in the car 'cause I think that's probably what a lot of them would do. 

[00:11:44] Dana: Well I'm gonna try to be optimistic and hope that they go to the right place, but it's, at the end of the day, it's the couple's flowers. So they, you know, are typically happy to see them go and spread the joy, you know?

[00:11:55] Dominique: So what else can get donated? 

[00:11:57] Dana: Food can get donated as long as it has been cared for properly. So there's a lot of caterers out there that I'm saying, "Hey, at the end of the night, if there is food that's left over, I'd like to donate that. Can I make those arrangements and handle that?" And I've had many say, "No, it's a liability issue. It's not gonna happen. Sorry. All of that would be really fun. We just can't do that." And I totally understand, but at the same time, I think there's a lack of understanding and education out there that food can be donated.

[00:12:26] Dana: There's a food protection, there's actually an act called the Bill Emerson Act, and it's about being a good Samaritan as long as you're donating food in good faith and you're not intentionally trying to harm anyone or mishandle that food, you have protection, you're not going to get sued if say someone got sick from that food. No one wants that. So as long as you're not misleading anyone, that can be donated.

[00:12:47] Adam: That's cool. So it sounds like part of your work is not just educating the wedding couple, but also the caterers and the other vendors that are coming in on what their options are and what the rules are.

[00:12:57] Dominique: You're really like the sustainability advocate right at the heart of all these people coming together and being like, actually we can do a lot of good stuff. We just have all been taught we can't.

[00:13:08] Dana: Yeah, it's challenging because you don't wanna be that person that's telling people how to do their business. Like, my business is my baby, and then they feel the same way, but I get that they wanna protect it, but yeah. It is like a big part of it is you have to just go get yourself out there and say, "Hey, there's better ways to do this. You really can. Here are the resources and how you do it." Food Rescue United States or Food Rescue US, they have a lot of different branches and regional organizations throughout. 

[00:13:34] Adam: I know in Columbus, Ohio, they have Food Rescue US Columbus and the team over there is awesome. Just anytime of day they will come pick up food. I mean, they did that for us this past weekend and it was excellent. So I'm so grateful for them and help even reaching out to places like that, like asking, "Hey, this is our plan. If we have food left over, this is how we'd love to donate it to you. Is there anything we need to know?" So if you're trying to donate food or you know, whatever. Even if it's pastries, it doesn't have to, I mean, obviously we wanna provide nutritious items, but even if you have leftover, like you're doing a dessert bar and think "Maybe we'll have extra," connecting with them and just asking, "Hey, what do we need to know and how are we gonna arrange this?" Don't hesitate to ask questions, especially if you're nervous about the liability, because they can at least give you the tools you need to do the best you can. Which highlights the point that you have to be very adaptable and very calm with whatever direction things are taking. Which we see reflected in your nature of like how calm and centered you are, which is really cool. 

[00:14:35] Dominique: Well you talked about kinda like sustainability being a win-win in a lot of environments, and we talked about donating food, donating flowers. I also noticed from chatting with you that you also are creative in your approach to the venue. 

[00:14:47] Dominique: Can you share about what sustainability looks like when selecting a venue?

[00:14:51] Dana: Yeah. So there's all sorts of ways to pick a venue in more sustainable fashion. I think what might naturally come to mind for people is finding a place that's lead certified. I get asked that all the time, like, "Are you finding venues that are lead certified?" Like that's really cool and I would love to do that. Like, that's a next step for me. There's a lot that can be done with this business. 

[00:15:10] Adam: What is lead certified?

[00:15:11] Dana: I forget what it stands for exactly, but it's a type of building, like the way the building is either refurbished or built in a way that's more sustainable and eco-friendly. There are a lot of new venues popping up, so maybe some of them followed that lead process but that's on my list of things to do is understanding, you know, finding a list of questions, asking the venues, "Are these things you've considered?" And not to give them a grade per se, but just to be able to show what they are doing for people. So if they are lead certified, that's great, but I don't necessarily have a directory for that at this point. 

[00:15:43] Dana: But a big thing that people can do, like something that's really easy is working with a venue that gives back to the community. So finding a nonprofit venue like Franklin Park Conservatory, for example. I mean, that's an easy one because it's a conservatory, right? Like they're conserving different species. They're doing all sorts of good things for the world, but they're also, they exist for the community to educate, to provide. Well education for the community, but also like for kids. It's a great spot for, you know, midweek field trips and they're open every day. So they don't just exist for weddings. They exist for many reasons, and their funding comes from many different things. So oftentimes those places are more affordable too. So when it comes back to that, you know, is sustainability more affordable? In certain places it is because they're not only open on Friday, Saturday, Sunday for weddings, they're open all days during the week, so they don't need, they can offset those costs.

[00:16:39] Dominique: Yeah. Thinking about like the power of choice you have when you're organizing this big event. Also, like aside from where you put your dollars, which I think is one of the biggest things you do about sustainability is like being aware of the power of your dollar bill. Like you're choosing to rent out a nonprofit space, you're giving money to a nonprofit or a park. I think also the awareness of bringing your friends and family to be acquainted with like maybe an arboretum or like a conservatory or a nonprofit. So that's pretty cool in terms of also the education of your community.

[00:17:11] Dana: there's pros and cons to every choice that people make, especially when it comes to their wedding, but that's just such a big pro. Like that's one of my top recommendations for sure, is finding a venue that, you're spending a lot, so where is that money gonna go? So a hundred percent I agree with everything you said.

[00:17:27] Dominique: How do you incorporate local 

[00:17:28] Dana: So you're hiring all sorts of vendors and a lot of them are local, like your caterer is typically gonna be a local caterer, but asking the caterer where are they sourcing their food from. So maybe there's a caterer that's sourcing X, Y, Z. And hopefully they can tell you. You know, we source everything from Cisco or whatever. Or we source all of our herbs from this local place, or we source all of our meats from these farmers in Ohio. Like even if you think, "Oh, my caterer's local," they're sourcing a lot. What are they providing locally? I know there are many caterers in town that can tell you where they're sourcing things from. Maybe there's some that aren't. 

[00:18:04] Dana: But with your flowers, asking your florist if they're able to source locally and in season, or picking your colors based on what is available in season in your area. But there are other things too. So when it comes to like artists and stationary, working with a local stationer is great. There are also a lot of advantages to considering someone local and supporting their small businesses. So I would say those are the top few, like local things you can select. 

[00:18:30] Dominique: Have you seen Local Save the Day?

[00:18:31] Dana: Oh,

[00:18:32] Dominique: I know you have.

[00:18:33] Dana: I sure have. Uh, this past weekend, well, my client did order from one of the online providers 

[00:18:39] Dana: And a lot of the time, the day-of paper goods, so your menus, your programs, your table numbers and place cards, those things, those are pretty last minute choices for the most part. Especially the place cards 'cause you, once you make table arrangements, those RCPs only come in a couple weeks beforehand so you have a very small window of time to decide, "Okay, these are the people that are coming, how are we gonna make them fit together?" 'cause you know, family dynamics are way too complicated. It's not just a simple, 'this group goes here, this group goes there.' They ended up ordering through an online provider and it did not go well. They rushed the shipping and it still didn't get here in time. So at the end of the day, we had to find a solution, and the solution was working with a local stationer. They had to almost completely redesign all their stationary for the day and print it and cut it and get it organized within basically 24 hours. and they did? 

[00:19:31] Dana: And they're total heroes and they

[00:19:34] Dominique: So quick, lower carbon emissions, customizable, all those features.

[00:19:39] Dominique: The money like went to a local business. It was quick and it was just, it was a really cool partnership.That's amazing. 

[00:19:46] Dominique: What do you feel like people can learn from what you're doing in terms of seeing the potential for sustainability incorporation 

[00:19:55] Dana: I would say just being optimistic and when they see something wrong, thinking about like the solution and how they can solve that or what they can do and focusing on the good because it's easy to think about all the things that you don't do right. And just calling those wins, wins and being happy about it. And sharing. If you can share what you do, the good work that you do. And maybe some people don't wanna do that 'cause it feels like bragging or whatever, but if you show people the cool things you can do, they'll try to do that too. 

[00:20:23] Dana: And that's how things like Stems for Seniors have just snowballed and grown over time. You know, we met through social media, they were sharing their great work, I was super excited about it. And now I'm sharing my partnership with them. And then other planners are seeing that they can do that too. And now it's just, it's huge. I mean, they're donating thousands and thousands of bouquets every year. So share your good work and be proud of it.

[00:20:45] Adam: I love that. So if you're doing great work for the planet, brag about it. Don't be humble because the more people that can see what you're doing, the more they can learn from that and replicate that and in their own lives. 

[00:20:57] Dominique: Yeah. I feel like you've spoken a lot about like the power of your dollar, the power of your choice, and the power of like your ability to share what you're doing. Those things feel common across a lot of spaces, but you might not have thought about them with events.

[00:21:09] Dana: Yeah. 

[00:21:10] Dominique: You definitely exist in this like kind of secret side of a thing. You know, like how the event comes together. So it's very cool to hear you unpack the impact of it and how you've been like such a amazing advocate for sustainability from the back end so. 

[00:21:24] Dana: Thank you.

[00:21:26] Adam: Plus, this has been a super fun, just kind of sneak peek into the world of wedding planning, what goes into it, and all the different pieces of how things move around.

[00:21:34] Dominique: Well, thank you for being an incredible green champion and carving space for sustainability and events and weddings and making Thyme & Details because the world is very grateful. Thank you.

[00:21:45] Adam: How do people connect with you?

[00:21:47] Dana: Uh, easiest way to connect is through Instagram. It's @thymeanddetails, and that's thyme like the herb, T-H-Y-M-E. Also, my website is www.thymeanddetails.com.

[00:21:59] Dominique: Thank you so much, Dana.

[00:22:00] Dana: Thank you for having me.

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[00:22:34] Adam: Alright. 

[00:22:35] Adam: Before we disappear, we have a little post podcast bonus for you. 

[00:22:39] Dominique: Okay. Well you mentioned, Dana, that you donate trees as part of Thyme & Details being sustainability oriented. 

[00:22:47] Dominique: What does that mean?

[00:22:48] Dana: So it's changed over time. When I first started the business, I started working with Eden Reforestation Projects and they would plant one mangrove tree in an area of need around the world. Helping with coastline, like reforestation and just helping with all the erosion and everything in different parts of the world. 

[00:23:08] Dana: So that was like a very, it made sense. It was easy to quantify. Like I donated one tree for every guest, which was really fun. And I think that it got a lot of conversations started. And that's one of those things that sharing online, it's like yes, it's something to shout out and it's great, but it helps people think, "Oh, I wanna do that for my business too. Like, that's really cool." Maybe it's not wedding specific, I'm not just helping clients to be more sustainable. I want my business to be sustainable and putting, you know, our profits,

[00:23:38] Dominique: You wanna create good just by existing as your organization too.

[00:23:41] Dana: Exactly. Like there's two sides to it. It's the sustainable business and then there's sustainable weddings that come out of it. So donating trees and they're planting them. I wasn't planting them at the time, so. They switched their mission and just their general practices. Totally fine. I still very much support them. They do amazing work. But it didn't necessarily make sense to quantify that with every wedding 'cause they're doing a little bit more of general habitat reforestation with like sponsorships and things. And so I wanted to change it up and do something a little more local too. So I am now working with Green Columbus, which is local to where I'm based. Yeah. Hooray.

[00:24:17] Dominique: The wonderful Shelly Douglas has been a guest on the podcast.

[00:24:21] Dana: Oh, okay. Well, perfect. We'll check that out then. So now my team and I are going out and physically planting a tree in an area of need in our community. So for every wedding we are donating more mature trees. So these mangrove seedlings and trees that I was donating before were a little bit less mature, smaller. It was easier to do more quantity, but now revisiting how I wanna plant trees, I don't want to not do it anymore. I, hundred percent have to do it.

[00:24:48] Dominique: it one tree per wedding?

[00:24:50] Dana: Yeah, so one tree per wedding. Local in Columbus. So my team is doing like a big tree planting event and we're gonna plant one tree for every couple and we'll send 'em a little geotag so they can see it grow over time.

[00:25:02] Dominique: So the couples get to know where their tree is? 

[00:25:03] Dana: Yeah. Yeah. And it's local and most of them are local. At least they had their wedding here. So if they wanna come back and celebrate for like an anniversary, they can check on their tree. 

[00:25:11] Dominique: That is adorable.

[00:25:12] Dana: Thank you.

[00:25:12] Dominique: Adam. 

[00:25:14] Adam: Yes Dominique? 

[00:25:15] Dominique: You've alluded to the fact that you've had more than one wedding,

[00:25:17] Adam: Yes, I have had two weddings.

[00:25:19] Dominique: All right, let's see the other one.

[00:25:21] Adam: Both to the same person.

[00:25:22] Dominique: I was gonna say, I know you're only married one person, so why very curious.

[00:25:26] Adam: Well, 

[00:25:27] Dominique: You had to have two weddings so that between us there's two weddings.

[00:25:30] Adam: That could be So, okay. The reason for the second wedding is that our first wedding was a Hindu wedding, very colorful Indian dress. It was in Chennai, India. But Anu wanted to have a white dress. We also had guests in the US that could not travel to India. Both she had friends and I had family. So we decided to do a destination wedding at the Grand Canyon.

[00:25:55] Dominique: What? 

[00:25:56] Adam: Yes, we 

[00:25:56] Dominique: What? Adam!

[00:25:57] Dana: That is awesome. 

[00:25:58] Adam: Stood at the rim of the Grand Canyon. Uh, my

[00:26:01] Dominique: Of course, you did.

[00:26:03] Adam: Brother-in-law's brother is in Germany. He was a pastor. He came over and married us. We had our good friends over. And we stood right on the edge looking over the cliff. So we had a choice either to get married a second time or to jump off the cliff, and chose to do it a second time.

[00:26:22] Dominique: Oh my gosh. That is, how'd you pick the Grand Canyon?

[00:26:25] Adam: It was one, Anu had lived in Phoenix, so it was very easy for a bunch of her friends from Phoenix get up there. Beautiful location. We could hire a wedding planner to take care of all the details because I was scared of planning weddings and it was one of my greatest fears.

[00:26:40] Dominique: Dana, have you organized destination weddings?

[00:26:43] Dana: I am new to destination weddings. For a while I thought that would be a foreseeable goal to do mostly destination just because that's, you know, like personal goal of traveling and everything. But sustainability, destination, travel, it doesn't all align very well. So if someone wants to do a destination wedding, I am more than happy to, but it is not gonna be a primary style of wedding, if you will, for Thyme & Details. But yeah, I'm working on two right now. I'm very excited about them. 

[00:27:09] Dominique: Very cool.

[00:27:09] Dominique: Fun. That's so fun. 

[00:27:11] Adam: Well, thank you for sharing that Adam.

[00:27:12] Adam: Yep. And if you're listening, thanks for tuning in. 'Til next time. Cheers. 

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